/meta/ - Site Discussion

Questions, bug reports, requests, etc.


New Reply[×]
Name
No-bump
Message
File 10MB total
Oekaki
Password
[New Reply]


1640801135603.jpg
[Hide] (162KB, 693x535)
Can there be a rule against ad threads?

It consistently introduces low quality discussion.
Only speaking as an occasional participant here, but I think they're fun and promote intermingling and collaboration within the "altchan community." ... Such as it is.

Ad threads do shunt potentially more "cultural touchstone" threads off page 10, of course, so much to weigh for the 'min.
◆ A burnt smell hangs ◆
Heh heh.
it's something we continue to consider, but it seems difficult to devise a rule that wouldn't punish behavior I don't have a problem with.

I want marzichan to be a place where people can share things they've made or found.
I understand that people generally don't like posts that feel like drive-by linkspam, but that category feels a bit hard to define.
require an explanation/pitch to marzinons rather than just a link? that wouldn't really fit with the casual funposting atmosphere I like to encourage, and I'm not sure it'd make forced advertising feel less forced, especially if the text is reused across many other sites too. prohibit self-promotion? I don't think that's fair, since I especially treasure original content/work, and besides, it could easily be flouted by someone pretending they "discovered" their own site.
I have a hunch that people object more to the specific content of what's often shared (for example, very young or rushed sites from non-marzinons, or sites that clash with marzichan's culture) rather than the practice of sharing itself.

it'd be different if the site was being overrun with lazy ads, but it's currently a fairly rare occurrence. the threads do seem to garner a disproportionate amount of activity, which is curious - maybe it's just because they inspire strong opinions.

>>390
>Ad threads do shunt potentially more "cultural touchstone" threads off page 10, of course
I'm sympathetic to this, but the same idea could just as easily apply to lazy funposting threads, which I have nothing against, and actually encourage as part of marzichan. users are more than welcome to bump old threads if they're worried about them going away, though! with /plaza/'s capacity of 100 threads, they hardly disappear overnight, especially given the site's modest speed :^p

I'd love to see marzichan become more active (so long as it's activity that fits the marzichan spirit), and if that happens, it would inevitably mean that threads become more ephemeral (at least until a fast/slow board split is warranted, as alluded to in the FAQ). it can be bittersweet, but we shouldn't discourage all new threads because of it.
>>392
I really do sometimes wish you weren't as much a sweetheart so I could be more crude to you more comfortably.
maybe you could drop a friendly greeting and link on the boards of those who have advertised here and see how they react. if they dont delete and arent douchey about it, then keep theirs. if they do or are, remove them. may cause some headaches by being subject to insults or inviting people who cant understand small boards arent just 4chan but slower and refuse to adapt though.
>>395
I like that idea but I would hate to step on Marzimin's toes when it comes to mutual site advertising desu
meant the admin should do it if they want to. forgot to tag any posts.
>>397
Egg on my face
>>398
no i was ambiguous
>>396
>>397
They say you get the energy you project, so surely anyone tactful and curious enough could serve as the Marzichan expedition crew.

These are literal "Hi come use my IB" advertising posts, so it would be insane for the OPs to complain if it actually worked.
>>396
>>400
the idea of "advertising a place you like" is good

the idea of "advertising a place I like on a place full of people the general community here seems to dislike, in case any 'nice fruits' decide to come over" is bad. I thought of advertising marzichan too. I would, actually. I will, if I find any community that would contribute anything decent to it. I'm not gonna drop links on dregheads' regular committees though. Enough insuferrables around as is.
>>392
>I'd love to see marzichan become more active
I think I should add to this however. Marzichan's main issue isn't so much a population issue. The "rules" (well, rather, more accurately, the guidelines) for marzichan, and the general culture in itself is aimed more for creativity and productivity. Which is very sweet, both in theory and in practicality. 

As I've said too, I personally, genuinely appreciate it. It's a nice safehaven from all the arguing and the dramas elsewhere, 

But that's the basis of the sociology here. The silence isn't "Marzichan's failure as a community" that's more or less it's functional state. Discourse, is a social stage. The basic reality is that we're a handful (not "a handful" in the sense that "we're tiny and small", I mean, just as goes the saying) of people here. I'm not trying to argue "enough drama would turn everyone here into an artist and creative." But a stage, requires a drama. The general userbase is, relatively nice here. It's not just that marzichan has a nice userbase, it's that the general culture cultivates nicety. Which is an "issue" on the prospect of having conversations. 

The times when this place gets the liveliest is when we either have "bad" actors, or present actors acting "bad." From a very fundamental, basic understanding of socialization, two people who agree, or at least, two people who are conflict averse, cannot have a conversation. You can't really talk about a topic where you see eye-to-eye, or at least, pretend to do so because you want not to argue. This is socialization at the basic roots. 

Now, I'm not saying "all human socialization must be high stakes drama" or anything as such. But, a chan board, realistically, being a chan board, is not going to invite the kinds of people or conversations that are high technicality of any prospect, realistically. At the general relatistivistic statistical probabilities (yes. I wrote that clause.) the chances of THAT kind of high quality conversation driving the kind of "high, fast" traffic on a chan board is very, very unlikely.

The alternative to that, are dramatics. Which is not likely to happen on an inherently anti-drama, sweet, nice place. Like I said before. I like this place. But the "lack of" fast traffic isn't a "failure", it's the final state of this kind of place. Even with creatives around, the chances of there being enough creatives around to constantly drive high quality content to produce fast traffic are very slim. And from a realistic perspective, the "only" way for marzichan to be the kind of "fast, high traffic chan" is either under the case that the culture gets steered into being a more "drama primary" driven community/culture, or, being another "dead group chat" where people just post "their things" INTO the void. Someone posts a youtube link from a video they watched, no one replies, someone posts "their song", no one listens to it, etc. 

Not trying to "make a statement" here. Just saying "you're best likened to a good parent." Which is sweet. I adore you for that. But being a good parent usually means you watch them grow away. USUALLY. not always. But when "they grow away", there is no drama at home, no shenanigans, no theatrics. Just the comfort of silence.
"Oh, maybe he’s just a passionate guy with ideas, after all."
>>395
I don't think it would serve marzichan to drop our own advertisements on any site that happens to make a post here. advertising to the wrong people can draw ire, or bring in users who might not be a good fit for marzichan, so I try to be somewhat careful.
>>410
would you consider accepting donations? idk. I might not have the world but I'd want to contribute something to the place. not just the place though. how do we make sure YOU're doing fine? say you had a shit day. shit week. shit YEAR if you will. how do we make sure that this doesn't become our one way ticket to "losing marzi and therefore his chan too", if you will?
>>402
Thought about this a little. It's not logical that we entirely opt out of "migration" if you will. Basic logic goes

>Can we grow without incoming users?
No (unless anyone can get preggers here?)
>Therefore we will need some influx
Yes
>How do we do this?
Controlled influx I think? marzichan can't necessarily grow in volume (if we want more people around, at least so) then we will have to apply some level of "controlled advertising" that introduces a small-but-non-zero amount of people regularly, and someone should dictate whether these people are fine or not. I'm not a fan of a kind of "state police" idea but, well. we will irrefutably have to do this (and more) if we want marzichan to grow in numbers. We don't have to, if we have no interest in population, though.

Then again, it would also have to require some level of financial backing to supply this. Is it impossible? not at all. But is it work? yes. And I can see why (in case they do) someone wouldn't want to do this. But I do think that my previous statement was rather redundant and possessive more than logically sound, so, here's my correction.
https://megidochan.de/
>>417
How do I solve the CAPTCHA?
>>418
Walk without rhythm. But the board is supposed to be locked for the duration of NEW MOON, anyway
>>419
provide MY MAN with your banlist o MEX almighty. contact him. send him an email. I know I got you to ban nearly every single free vpn on the internet out there. He must incorporate this to the marzichan ban list so we can avoid anyone that tries to use VPNs to spam our homestead
>>419
Doesn't fit. Max length is one character shorter.
>>423
The "real answer" is actually a decade plus old injoke... but I disabled it the question. 
'p altchan spam entity seems to be quiet this month.
>>425
Thanks! Can I post about CRBA?
>'p altchan spam entity seems to be quiet this month.
CRBAchan got one yesterday.
>>426
You could make a thread, but most replies go in the main general, anyway.
Also, I was considering adding CRBAchan to the top bar regardless for the laudable "autism" factor it has
>>427
>You could make a thread, but most replies go in the main general, anyway.
Ok
>Also, I was considering adding CRBAchan to the top bar regardless for the laudable "autism" factor it has
Please do! Thank you!
spiral.png
[Hide] (29.1KB, 1414x1207)
>>428
Added. Since my own imageboard sits on the interstice of two very cursed and idiosyncratic "fandoms", I felt a sense of easy kinship... 
Please clean your board, though, there's some CP spam on it currently.
>>433
>Added. Since my own imageboard sits on the interstice of two very cursed and idiosyncratic "fandoms", I felt a sense of easy kinship...
Thank you very much!
>Please clean your board, though, there's some CP spam on it currently.
Done. Unfortunately I'm getting the CP spam multiple times a day.
If you're want to help, I can make you a mod. For that, please use the contact form on the main site.
btw admin, this thread has useful hints for countering those spammers. Unfortunately the thread has regular interruptions from reactionary locals, but they can be ignored.
https://trashchan.xyz/meta/thread/374.html#1430

note: the link in the OP has changed, see the most recent posts for the new link
>>465
thanks very much for the link!! I used the old xj9k site occasionally and found it very useful, but I didn't know it had merely moved domains. I was worried the project was toast when I tried visiting recently and saw it was down.
>>433
>homestuckcacas are unbothered by cp 
not like this...
[New Reply]
30 replies | 2 files
Connecting...
Show Post Actions

Actions:

Captcha: